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"Just F**king Do It!" How Two Grown Women With Kids Wrote A Musical!
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"Just F**king Do It!" How Two Grown Women With Kids Wrote A Musical!

Susan Grant and Joni De Winter are grown women who do the school run, have jobs and have written a brilliantly funny new musical.

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Joni De Winter and Susan Grant

Last summer I went to see a brand new musical called Hugh written by two hilarious women: Susan Grant and Joni De Winter. The show features an original story about a play within a play and takes down some pretty sexist tropes from 90s romcoms. I was lucky to do some creative work with Susan and Joni during which we talked in depth about what the show is about - I call it ‘finding your big idea’

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I love to see a work in progress and work that progresses. And since I saw the show, Hugh has progressed so much that Susan and Joni have already started work on their next project.

I caught up with them a few weeks ago to record this podcast and found them in fine form. Their journey from (excellent) function band singers to inspired and inspiring musical theatre writers is a testament to their creativity and focus.

In the interview they explain that they both have lives already full with jobs, families, and all that goes with that so the thought of holding it all together AND becoming theatre writers seemed to be totally unachievable. However, once they made a commitment to show up for their creativity things changed and Hugh was born.

The point is that once they committed to the project they soon realised that they could write a show that people would pay to see. This became a virtuous circle and their own attitude to their creativity changed. Instead of giggling apologetically when telling people that they wrote a musical they now confidently assert that they are theatre writers. Which they are!

Our conversation took place on a dark evening in January. Susan and Joni were relaxing in Joni’s living room while elegantly sipping champagne and there was a lot of laughter. What struck me most was the openness and honesty that both women expressed about their personal and creative lives.

They have come along way from crying on the floor in fear and desperation the night before their first performance. They regret nothing, have lots of experience to share and their advice for anyone considering starting a creative project is “Just Fucking DO IT!” Which is sound advice for all creatives!

Just F**King Do It!

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